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THE DEFA STUDIO
FOR POPULAR SCIENCE EDUCATION
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PRESENTS
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She has a boy-friend.
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I saw her yesterday.
She was wearing blue jeans.
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She was riding her bike.
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DO YOU HAVE THE TALK?
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BOY-GIRL RELATIONSHIPS
PART 1
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SCENARIO:
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BRIGITTE DIESING
GÖTZ OELSCHLÄGEL
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PLAYWRIGHT: ERICH LEGLER
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EDITOR: WALTRAUD HARTMANN
SOUND: FRED LINDE
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DECOR: OTTO MÜLLER
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SCIENTIFIC CONSULTANTS:
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GERHARD WITZLACK, PSYCHOLOGIST
SIGRID HAUPTVOGEL, EDUCATOR
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ASSISTANT DIRECTOR:
GERHARD SCHEUNERT
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PRODUCER: FRIEDRICH ROCHOW
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CAMERA: GÜNTER BIEDERMANN
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DIRECTOR: GÖTZ OELSCHLÄGEL
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What now?
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Why are you crying?
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Did something happen?
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Anita?
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Hey!
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Say something.
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The same thing every day.
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What is it?
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Leave me alone.
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Don't speak to me like that.
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This takes the cake.
Do you understand it?
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ANITA LOVES PETER.
THEY KISSED!!!
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11 and 12 year-old boys and girls
sit in this classroom.
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Last month,
3 indecent romance novels,
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and series of photos
circulated among them.
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17 filthy pictures were drawn,
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and 9 so-called love notes were written.
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Why?
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How many of you
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have heard about the topic
we have just talked about
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from your mother and father?
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Studies
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in several schools
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show that only 4%
of 11 and 12 year-old students
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have been educated by their parents
about man-woman relationships
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and related issues.
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That is 40 students out of 1,000,
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4 out of 100.
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And only one in this classroom.
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What do parents have to say?
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Let's not beat around the bush.
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I'm going to be frank,
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and I know many parents think like me.
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I hesitate very much
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to talk about these things
with my daughter.
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She's been very secretive lately.
I just can't bring myself to do it.
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I'm the same with my son.
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I just can't do it.
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I know it's wrong but I just can't.
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I don't understand
why parents should face this alone.
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It falls within the school's mission,
I mean, the teachers'.
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Without going into details
but in Biology class,
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when they talk about animals,
there are lots of avenues.
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- Sorry?
- Is that better?
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No details
but from a scientific point of view.
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- We must say something.
- Wait.
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And there are many specialized books
with lots of answers about this topic.
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Excuse-me, I don't agree at all.
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What?
Sex education like they're saying?
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It'll only make kids curious.
They'll see indecency everywhere.
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It's obvious.
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No, that's wrong.
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Excuse me.
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This sex education doesn't end
with one conversation.
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You do it in stages.
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It is part of education
from an early age.
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Just imagine me one day telling my son:
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"You're 12,
now's the time for me
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"to explain to you
the difference between boys and girls."
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It wouldn't work.
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What we did is very simple.
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From the time he was very young,
we have tried to answer his questions,
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very truthfully.
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It's true.
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But to be totally honest,
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I still find it hard.
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I think we're making
too much fuss about it.
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My son is still only interested in play.
He doesn't think of girls.
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- At his age?
- Yes.
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I agree with you.
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At 11, 12 years of age,
children don't think about sex.
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Around 13, 14, maybe.
It can start.
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But not before.
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I would go even further.
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For me, such a topic is a real burden
for children of that age.
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I agree, 11 year-olds have
no interest in the opposite sex yet.
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Sex education
is really unnecessary at this age.
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With such sensitive topics,
you need to wait as long as possible.
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My thoughts exactly.
There's still plenty of time.
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Those who still think so
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underrate both their children's maturity
and their parental responsibility.
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They let the old home medical guide
arouse curiosity,
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and be a source
of poorly-digested knowledge.
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The main topic:
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bathroom talk.
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Hurry up.
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A real pig, you know?
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- He touched her breast?
- Yep!
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- Down there too.
- Oh, yuck!
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Here happens, in the worst way,
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what parents overlook.
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Here is their sex education.
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What's up?
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We had to turn the sound off.
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Some parents look the other way.
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They pretend
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it doesn't exist.
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How many educators
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content themselves with a resigned
"It's an awkward age."
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They don't notice the changes
happening within their 12-year-old.
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They don't notice
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the dark ideas and new feelings
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creating the first instances
of inner turmoil
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born from surrounding
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stimuli.
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Parents shy away,
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and leave their children alone
on puberty's threshold,
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in one of the most complex phases
of growing-up.
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Old-fashioned prejudice and false shame
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often intensify
children's inner conflicts.
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Say, Granny, what are
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periods?
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What are you mumbling?
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Who told you?
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The girls.
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You'll learn about it soon enough.
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She learned it too late.
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She was taken by surprise
by a natural process
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in a woman's life,
that she didn't understand.
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In whom should she confide?
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In the teacher?
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In her friends?
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In her Granny?
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We don't mention it.
You'll know soon enough.
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What are you doing here?
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Why aren't you outside?
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Why are you crying?
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It's nothing.
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It was sheer coincidence
that the pioneer leader walked by.
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But it is definitely no coincidence
that the girl trusts her.
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It is the result
of candour and pedagogy.
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There is no good education
without trust.
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We can talk naturally
about such natural things.
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- OK?
- Yes.
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Stop crying now.
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And Sigrid, next time
you're looking for advice,
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or have a question,
come to me, I'll help you.
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Yes.
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Now let's go talk
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to Granny.
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Come.
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But she's still a child.
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She can't understand.
She's only 11.
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Children just don't
suddenly turn into grown-ups.
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It's a process.
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We need to guide that process,
not hinder it.
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That's easy for you to say.
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I often work late.
I hardly see my child.
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That's why I came,
so we can talk about it.
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Here's the most important point:
let's not turn man-woman relationships
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and everything they involve,
into a secret.
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Sigrid's questions must be answered,
by us at school,
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and by you at home.
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That's right.
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But Grannies can have
slightly old-fashioned points of view.
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Not only Grannies.
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Most parents
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know very little
about puberty processes.
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Sit down.
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Between 12 and 13 years old,
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the hormonal structure
of children's bodies changes markedly.
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Deep biological changes
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mark the beginning of sexual maturity
and bring about
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psychological lability.
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They seem to live
in constant contradiction.
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They stop being children,
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but aren't adults yet.
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This process
starts 2 years earlier by girls
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than by boys.
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Who'll read the next one?
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Christl, come to the board.
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Researchers from many countries
have shown that this maturation
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occurs1 1/2 to 2 years earlier
in current generations,
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not between 13 and 14 anymore,
but between 11 and 12
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nowadays.
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Parents and teachers
need to be aware
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of these early biological changes
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and all their psychological
and social effects,
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to be able to solve
puberty-related issues together.
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Several development phases
can be distinguished.
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They overlap
even though they're very different.
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Very early on, children
become aware of the differences
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between boys and girls.
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They begin to perceive
their gender as something special.
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Physical differences interest them.
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The excess of youthful energy
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acted out here is accompanied
by a naive, unconscious
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erotic interest.
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They need to be made aware
of their impulses,
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to be able to learn
how to control them.
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Soon, rowdiness
turns into dreamy crushes
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with the furtive secrecy
and vague longings
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associated with self-discovery.
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Youths feel so many feelings
during that time.
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They try to find their bearings in life.
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They look for heroes, role models.
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They fancy a certain ideal,
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without proper measure
or discernment yet.
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Crushes
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become idols.
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She will laugh about it in a few years,
and about herself.
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Today however,
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do we convey enough measure
and discernment to her?
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Evelin, help me with the dishes.
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Can you hear me?
I'm waiting.
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Yes, coming.
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This constant quest
for awe-inspiring role models,
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must be guided deliberately
but unobtrusively by all educators.
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Nevertheless,
the greatest models should be Father
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and Mother,
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even in the most trivial occurrences.
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- Let's start. Are you coming?
- Yes, I am.
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- Are you cold too?
- No.
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- I've been freezing all day.
- That's easy to fix.
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- Wouldn't it be better with this?
- How kind of you.
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This and similar instances
will later influence Peter's behaviour.
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Indeed, a half-playful,
half-serious need for mutual contact
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soon grows within him.
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... stand up and show her to me.
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Put your right arm around her.
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Hold her tight and keep her warm.
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Give me a lovely kiss
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Because I must leave you now.
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One starts to experience
these old parlour games
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as a new kind
of highly amusing stimulus.
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Sour.
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Sweet.
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One selects,
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finds one's type
and begins proper flirting.
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The seat on my right is empty,
I'm calling
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Anita.
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These are clear signs
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that the youths are growing
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and becoming aware
of their gender identity.
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1,
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2,
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3.
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This phase requires
maximum understanding, gentle help,
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and character-building guidance
from all educators.
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Gradually, friendships are formed,
often superficial
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and short-lived,
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sometimes deep and poignantly sincere,
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like between Anita and Peter.
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Studying together has allowed them
to improve their school results.
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However today,
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he needs to tell her
something important during class.
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He wishes to carry her backpack
during their field trip tomorrow.
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If there's danger...
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If there is one.
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Who will write it on the blackboard?
But in the infinitive, OK?
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ONE THOUSAND KISSES
PETER WHO LOVES YOU
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Helpfulness, politeness and sincerity
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are key factors in the development
of feelings of mutual respect,
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the basis
for healthy boy-girl relationships.
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Sex education builds character.
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Besides continuous sex education,
parents and teachers
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need to give meaning
to such little friendships.
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Tasks accomplished together benefit all.
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Discovering
the meaning of work through play,
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and the meaning of life through work.
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Ethical values
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are imprinted early,
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and will influence
their thoughts and critical minds.
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Christl here.
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We meet by the bus at 5.
Do you receive me?
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Listen,
here's an important task for you 2.
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- Can you do it?
- Yes.
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Look for our way back,
so you can guide us.
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Great.
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I'm cold.
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Like parent like child.
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Peter very naturally copies
his father's example.
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But what seems natural for Anita
certainly isn't for her parents.
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Always fussing with your hair.
What about your homework?
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- It's finished.
- Show me.
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Here.
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Coming.
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- Anita?
- Yes?
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- I don't like it.
- What?
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- You spending all your time with Peter.
- What of it?
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- Go play with your girl friends.
- Why not with Peter?
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It is not proper for a girl.
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You just want to pry.
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- Anita?
- Yes?
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What's this?
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Listen.
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Peter who loves you.
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This can't go on.
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At your age?
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It's ridiculous.
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Give me my note back.
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Of course, you can count on it.
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Does her father realize
what his irony is destroying within her?
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Her all-important trust.
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Not these boys
but their parents and educators
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are to blame
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when budding friendships
are ridiculed
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and trodden upon.
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Anita loves Peter.
Anita loves Peter.
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Did something happen?
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Anita?
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Hey!
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Leave me alone.
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Don't speak to me like that.
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That takes the cake.
Can you understand it?
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Yes, it is perfectly understandable.
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Such conflicts
are usually a way of expressing
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that something is wrong
with parental education,
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that the youths feel
misunderstood at home,
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and aren't trusted enough.
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It is up to us, and us alone
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whether our children grow
into morally stable and creative adults.
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We constantly need to keep their trust.
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We need to take them seriously,
like adults,
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and to connect their desire for autonomy
with a sense of social responsibility.
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We will have done our job well
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if helpfulness becomes an integral part
of our children's personalities.
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Regard for others
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is a prerequisite
of regard for the opposite sex,
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the basis for education of love.
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Let's get back to work.
Sit down.
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Subtitles: Élisabeth Fuchs